The demonisation of Fred Leuchter, Jr.

Fred Leuchter built machines for killing people. That was his business. It seems he kind of drifted into it, and he was motivated by the desire to avoid people being tortured during their legally prescribed death. Regardless of your views on the death sentence, it remains on the statutes in many parts of the world and in many states of the United States. Fred built electric chairs. He was also an expert on building gas chambers; one of, perhaps, a very few and according to Fred, the only one who has been court endorsed as a gas chamber expert. Fred reportedly has several patents to his name in other fields, including surveying equipment. The court endorsement arose because of his contribution to the second Canadian trial of Ernst Zundel in 1988. I quote Fred:

Zundel’s first trial had been set aside, and they were retrying him again and they were getting ready to go to trial and Dr. Robert Faurisson, who was an expert on WWII literature – when I say literature – I’m talking about documentation that was generated during the war by the powers that were fighting.  He had been in touch with Ernst Zundel, and he told Zundel that the only way you are going to be able to do anything is you’re going to have to get an expert on gas chambers to come in and talk about the alleged gas chambers (and I say alleged because that’s important) that were in Auschwitz and then Birkenau and in any of the other facilities.

And since this was the case, they spoke with the court.  The judge tentatively authorized them to find an expert.  Dr. Faurisson’s next contact was with the United States to find out who made execution equipment.  Everybody sent them to me.  Well before they contacted me, he had a very long conversation with Bill Armontrout, who was the warden and later became the Commissioner of Correction in Missouri.  And he was then directed to contact me.

I was contacted, a little surreptitiously at first because he asked me questions about my background and then he asked what I thought of the holocaust and the gas chambers that we used to kill all the Jews during WWII.  I said, “well, I don’t know anything about it.”  He said, “Well do you believe that they existed?”  And I said, “Well, yeah, I guess so.  They taught me that in school.”  At any rate, the court approved me as an expert tentatively.  I was brought to Toronto. I met with Doug Christie and Zundel and his legal team in 1988.  I was given a lot of documentation.  I had to do a lot of studying on the alleged concentration camps because I came in really ‘wet behind the ears’.  I didn’t know what was going on.

After I got all of this information absorbed, I did a lot of studying on it.  I also had a study on crematoria.  I had to find out how long it took to cremate a body with coal, how long it took to cremate a body with oil today and there was a lot of material that I had to study as would any engineer that was doing a job.  They then cleared me to go to Poland.  I told Ernst Zündel that if I found the facilities could have been execution facilities, I would report that as such in my report.  I told him that whether or not I found evidence, if I found that they could have done it, I would also report that and Zundel said I’m satisfied that you’re going to come back and going to believe that there were no gas chambers.

So, I went to Poland.  When I got to Poland, I was just totally amazed.  I mean the whole thing was a joke.  There were no gas chambers.  The facilities that were supposed to have been gas chambers were no more than rooms with leaky windows and leaking doors.  If you ever tried to use one for a gas chamber, you could kill yourself while you were killing whoever was in the chamber.  (My emphasis) They said that there was equipment removed.  There was nothing removed, because from the design standpoint, there’d have to be holes in the walls, holes in the ceiling, holes in the floors.  You have to have places where you had fans, ducts.  None of that was removed and none of that was patched up.  The structures didn’t exist.

So, I wrote a report and I stated that I felt the facilities there in Poland not only were not gas execution facilities, but could not have been made into gas execution facilities, and I returned.  I wrote the report.  I testified in court.

End of quote.

The report entitled A Matter of Engineering – Capital punishment as a technical problem was written before efforts began to be made to discredit Fred. I quote:

Fred A. Leuchter, the president of Fred A. Leuchter Associates, Inc., in Boston, is the obvious person to call for electric-chair repair. Leuchter designs and builds state-of-the-art electrocution systems, and he runs the only training program in the country for execution technicians. Leuchter’s company repairs, adapts, and installs electric chairs. As the nation’s only commercial supplier of execution equipment, Fred A. Leuchter probably knows more about electric-chair technology than anyone else.

Leuchter’s expertise is not limited to electrocution. A trained and accomplished engineer, he is versed in all types of execution equipment. He makes lethal-injection machines, gas chambers, and gallows, as well as electrocution systems. In its literature the company promises to meet “any requirement, you might have relative to execution equipment, training or protocol.”

Leaning on the chair, Leuchter explains that electrocution is a fairly simple procedure. There are, he says, just a few technical considerations. Good results depend on careful calibrations of voltage, current, and connections, and the duration and number of electrical jolts supplied.

A good electrocution system, Leuchter says, uses three electrodes. Electricity is introduced through an electrode on the inmate’s head. Leuchter places a metal beanie on his own head and explains that this is the head electrode that came with the southern chair. Electricity travels through the body toward two electrodes tightly secured to the ankles, Leuchter says as he removes the electrode from his head. He stresses the importance of maintaining “good circuit continuity at the electrode contacts.” Tight electrical contacts, he points out, “help reduce flesh burning.”

End of quote.

Gruesome stuff, but this was his business, and if you read the article, you would conclude he was certainly highly competent and perhaps the best at his profession. This from the same article:

If someone had asked him about it ten or twelve years ago, Fred Leuchter wouldn’t have believed he’d end up in the execution-equipment business. He says he “just kind of slid into it.” During the twenty-year period following his graduation from Boston University, Leuchter busied himself with a variety of electrical engineering pursuits. He designed navigational equipment for the navy and holds the patent for the first electronic sextant. He also holds patents for several other optical-coding and surveying devices, including a photographic instrument that works from helicopters and was used to map terrain in Vietnam. Ten years ago, when a New England prison warden called to see if he might be able to repair an electric chair damaged in a riot, Leuchter was working as a private engineering consultant. He had never worked on execution equipment before.

Leuchter, who with a partner eventually set up a company called American Engineering, began to investigate execution technology. He consulted medical journals at the Boston University library. He spoke with engineers and prison personnel around the country. He examined available electric-chair blueprints and photographs. When he’d completed his studies, Leuchter returned the New England prison warden’s call and announced himself competent to answer electric-chair-related questions. Soon after, another warden called. This one needed something to hold a head electrode in place during execution. Leuchter dispatched a $1,400 handmade helmet. Word travels fast in the community of correctional personnel. Soon wardens all over the country were calling to see if Fred Leuchter and American Engineering could help them with various electric-chair problems. Shortly thereafter American Engineering was dissolved. Leuchter and his newly formed company, Fred A. Leuchter Associates, Inc., were left alone to field the calls.

End of quote.

People who are incompetent do not have this kind of patent track record, nor this demand for their services.

Here is a video of Leuchter discussing the gas chamber question, which I encourage you to watch. He is unequivocal that there were no gas chambers and that the holocaust was a hoax. He also explained how it would take at least 35 years to cremate the supposed 6M bodies using the equipment ostensibly used. You can find his report here and a brief introduction to this final version here.

It was after Fred’s expert witness contribution to Zundel’s trial that the fun began. If you search on-line, you will find that Leuchter was prosecuted for practising as an engineer without a license. Here are Fred’s words:

Anyway after I testified in court, my life essentially was turned upside down.  I was put through hell.  I was prosecuted in court on a spurious charge as practicing as an engineer without a license and one doesn’t need a license, I don’t believe in any single state, to be an engineer.  You only have to have a license if you certify blueprints.  I didn’t do that.  I was persecuted;  my friends threatened.  I lost job offers.  I was effectively put out of business in my execution equipment because the Department of Corrections was afraid to deal with me.

People that worked for the state, particularly the Department of Corrections and political analysts and they were afraid.  I had one warden.  I was at a convention in the Midwest.  It was actually Missouri and I walked into the coffee shop at the hotel and there was a big curved coffee bar in the center, and I sat down opposite him and I looked at him and I waved.  He looked at me.  He got up and he walked out of the room.
When I got back to my room, I had a phone call and his secretary had called me, so I called him back and she said, “Warden so-and-so wanted me to apologize,” she says, “but there’s been so much political pressure, that she said he was afraid to be in the same room with me.  It was terrible.  I had my house fire bombed.  I had my friends threatened.

I was even followed by two Mossad agents, who came over from Israel specifically to follow me around during the time of my trial.  I was informed by my cousin, who had been informed by the gentleman, who was ahead of the Massachusetts State Police and when we were younger, we grew up and we played with the gentleman who was ahead of the state police.  At any rate, he called my cousin.  He says, “because of the fact that Freddy is facing the court, I can’t communicate with him.  He says, but I would like you to get a message to him.  We have been advised by the State Department and by the CIA and by the FBI, that there were two Mossad agents in Malden.  We don’t know what they’re doing, but you’re being watched.

Well, I was unaware of this until she told me and for about 3 or 4 days, I was being followed and I didn’t know why I was being followed. Well, at any rate after I found out the day following that, I was being followed again by a vehicle with tinted windows.  I think it was a Cadillac or some such thing and I got into a semi-rural part of Malden and they followed me up the hill and I spun my car out and blocked the road.  At that point, I got out of the car and I went up to the window and I pounded on the window of the driver’s side. The gentleman rolled the window down.

There were two very dark-complexioned, I guess they were Jews from Israel.  They could have been Arabs.  They were middle eastern types.  At that point, I reached inside my jacket and I pulled out a 45-caliber pistol and I touched his nose with it and I asked him what he wanted.  Well, the two gentlemen in the car, as dark- complexioned as they were turned white and the next thing I know, they put the car into reverse, floored it, went up over the curb, hit somebody’s fence, spun around and took off down the street from whence they came.  And I guess they didn’t want some kind of an incident because I was legally carrying a firearm.  I was legally protecting myself.  They wouldn’t have looked too good in the news media and the police, if they are agents of a foreign government, following somebody around.  So that was the last I saw of them.  I think they finally figured that I was a little too crazy to deal with.

End of quote.

But the story of his treatment in Germany in particular is little to do with justice:

But unbeknownst to me again, she made a deal with the police in Mannheim, Germany.  I didn’t know this.  I arrived and just before I went on camera, I was approached by three German police officers from Mannheim.  One of them spoke English – not well, but his English was better than my German.  The other two gentlemen didn’t speak any English at all and I was told that I was going to have to go back to Mannheim with them and face trial in Mannheim because of what I said about the gas chambers and I said, “What have I said and where have I said it?”  Well, I said it in Canada.
I said, “How do you get jurisdiction in Canada.”  I said, “I’m an official of the court. I don’t interfere with the legal system in Canada.”  Well, it didn’t seem to make any difference.  I said, “All right, I assume you have a warrant.  Let me see your warrant.”
“Well, we don’t have a warrant.”
I said, “What do you mean, you don’t have a warrant!”  I said, “How do you expect to make an arrest?”
“Well, we’re not making an arrest.”
I said, “Then what are you doing?”
He said, “We’re going to take you back to see a judge in Mannheim.”
I said, “Like hell, you’re going to take me back to see a judge in Mannheim.”  I said, “I came over here to be on a television show.”  At which point, he pulled a Walther 380 out and stuck it in front of my face and told me that I would be required to go back.  OK, if that’s the case, I wasn’t going to argue.

I can stop a 380 like anybody else could. I didn’t feel like being dead.  So I was handcuffed at that point and I was taken across 3 states by police officers that were violating their own laws; I was essentially kidnapped, not arrested.  And Schreinemacher threw a fit because she told the cops, “You promised he could be on television and now you’re taking him before he is.”  I said, “Sure, let me on television.”

I was about to tell the world on her national hookup that I was being kidnapped at gunpoint and they weren’t about to let that happen.  So, I was drove through half the night and I wound up getting fingerprinted, mug shots taken – first time that ever happened to me and probably the last time it would ever happen to me, and I was thrown in a cell.

The following morning, I was taken from there to the courthouse and the information of my being taken, and I don’t want to say arrest, but nobody knew I wasn’t arrested except me and my ex-wife, because she was there.  And at any rate, I was taken to the court and Zündel had made arrangements for an attorney to come, and the attorney made an argument, but it didn’t do any good.  The judge just threw me into a cell at the Mannheim Prison.  They have a wing of unconvicteds that are awaiting trial and that’s where I wound up.

Judge Bauer, incidentally, was Jewish.  I explained to him and I complained to him that I was taken without a warrant.  He said, “It doesn’t matter. He says, I got you here now.”

I was thrown into a cell and I spent some 3-1/2 months.  The attorney that I first had was Zündel’s attorney, and I subsequently, was put in touch with another attorney, who handled my case from thereon out – Haio (Hajo) Hermann, whom I believe has subsequently passed away. Haio Hermann had very strong feelings about people that were held and put in prison for thought crimes, which essentially was what happened to me.
Haio was a German soldier during WWII on the eastern front, and he spent 11 years in a communist prison before he was released after the war.  So, he became a lawyer, so he could prevent that from happening again.  It took him 2-1/2 months, almost 3 months after that, but he finally got me a bail hearing and I was, subsequently, handcuffed, taken out in a prison bus.  The bus was very interesting because it had little rooms half the size of a telephone booth and I was squeezed into it and then the door was closed – individual rooms.

After I arrived there, I went before a 3-judge panel that was going to decide on whether or not I would get bail. Haio Hermann made all his arguments, and I hadn’t said anything.  I was then given the opportunity to speak.  I spoke briefly and the judges said, “Well, we don’t have to go any further.  We are going to remand you without bail.”
This was all going on in German and my German is not good, but I obviously figured out, at this point, that I’m going back to the slammer.  So, I turned around to Haio Hermann, “What the hell kind of kangaroo court is this.”  I said, “They haven’t given me an opportunity speak.”  I said, “I’m a responsible individual.”  Well, the judge, at that point, stopped the proceedings.  He said to Haio Hermann in German, “What’s your client’s problem”?  And then he said, “Never mind.”

He turned around and said to me in perfect English, “They all understood perfect English, and he said to me, “Do you have a problem with what we’re doing here?”  And I looked at him, and I said, “You damn well know I’ve got a problem with what you’re doing here.”  I said, “I’m a responsible business person.”  I said, “I came over to your country for a television show.”  I said, “I was seized at gunpoint, illegally transported across a half dozen states against your own laws, and now I’m awaiting bail, so I could go home and the judge says, “Well, if we gave you bail, would you come back?” And I said, “Of course, I’d come back.”  So, they said, “Give us a few minutes to deliberate.”  They went in back.

They came out 10 minutes later and they said they were giving me bail.  Now they had to do something with me while they’re waiting for the bail because Haio Hermann contacted.  His contact was Zündel and Zündel had to post bail.  I was effectively bailed for something in the vicinity of $22,000. Oh yeah, I was a master criminal.

At that point, the judges called us into chambers.  Now we’re in chambers.  They ordered coffee and cakes.  In our meeting, I’m eating cakes and drinking coffee with the judges.  You can see where their sympathies lay.  Afterward, I went back to the prison.  I got my belongings. I got my passport, everything.

I told Haio Hermann.  I said, “I want the next plane out of here.”  He said: “I would like you to stay a couple more days because there are some people who would like to hear your speech.”

I said, “I’m not staying.  I want to be on the next plane.”  So I did get on the next plane.  I came home and that was fine, after I got home.  Then I was in touch with Mr. Hermann and I had plans to go back and face trial, something along a year, which I believe was going to be the following February.  As the time went by, he had been in touch with me.  About a week before, he called and I said, “Yes, I’ll make arrangements, I’ll get a ticket, and I’ll see you on such and such a date.”

End of quote. There is more to this story. He was to be killed upon his return.

So, who would be out to discredit this man and plan to kill him for telling the truth? I quote this dialogue involving Fred:

Jim Rizoli (JR): First of all, would you call yourself a revisionist?
Fred Leuchter (FL): I do now.  I didn’t 25 years ago.
JR: But when you think about all the revisionists that are out there, especially the ones publishing and writing, you probably are one of the most famous ones.
FL: I think that’s probably true and in those days after I had been to Auschwitz, after I had testified in court, I considered myself a reluctant revisionist.  Now after the Jews beating on my head for 20 years, I’m not reluctant any more. (My emphasis)

These quotes are from an interview with Leuchter conducted in September 2015, which I commend to you.

Once more, this interview came to me. I did not go looking for it, as so often happens in what I do.

And it a classic illustration of how things unfold in our world. Leuchter’s evidence completely destroys the myth of 6M Jews being gassed to death and then cremated. Both were impossible. But then comes the discrediting, and if you want to believe in the Holocaust, you find that he was prosecuted for practising as an unlicensed engineer, consider him to have been discredited and stop looking. You have the proof you need. I learned long ago that, whatever your belief, you can find the evidence to support it, and this discrediting provides those who wish to believe in the Holocaust myth the evidence they need.

Except it’s a spurious case, constructed for exactly this purpose. Not only that, those running this lie intended to kill Leuchter f he went back to Germany for his trial mentioned above.

To quote Joseph Goebbels: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Ever wonder why Holocaust denial is illegal in many European countries including Germany? Goebbels gives you the answer.

Watch this interview with Leuchter. He’s the real deal.

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